How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

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I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

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Sain (a barber)

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

What is one thing which you cannot stop however hard you try?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Is there a musician who has publicly stated that they do not want their music played by the Trump campaign or at a Trump rally? If so, who and why?

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Why is there so much hate against black people?

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Kabir (a weaver)

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Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

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How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Why do wives cheat with black guys?

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

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Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Is there scientific evidence for reincarnation? If so, how does it work and can it be proven through regression therapy?

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

My husband asked me why do I keep on complaining about him cheating. Why don't I just leave?

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Now here in this verse

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

I am like a fish out of water,

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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CONCLUSION:

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

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That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

NOW…

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

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Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.